Eliminate Israel's right to exist as a sovereign country. Vote to strip Israel’s sovereignty & no longer recognize it as a country at the United Nations. Then come the Nuremberg 2.0 Trials.
Harbor no illusions - the only reason Israel decided to move now is because they know full well that, because they have bought or threatened sufficient numbers of high-ranking officials in those governments that matter, and could make this plan possible, they are completely safe from harm. Sure, they may suffer some PR setbacks in the short run, but they are confident, and should be, that no one or no entity will stop them from completing their mission to establish Greater Israel. I wish it were not so.
The concept of a State for Jews was always ridiculous, dangerous, illegal,undemocratic and primitive. No religion has a right to self determination, a State or homeland and that includes Jews.
If Jews had such a right then all religions would have the same right and none do. And the homeland would be where the religion was invented. For Jews that would be what is now Iraq and for Christians it would be Palestine. But no such right exists.
The idea that European Jews could invade, occupy and colonise someone else's country and decree in the name of their religion that the native people had to be exterminated, as Zionists and then Israelis have always stated as policy, was not only insane it was and is criminal.
Palestine is the homeland of the Palestinian people and belongs to no-one else and to no religion. Palestine has existed for more than 5000 years and was ancient when Judaism was invented and a primitive tribe called Judah wandered into Palestine and set up camp alongside dozens of other tribal groups.
In the modern age, to have a State which laughingly claims to be a Western democracy and yet which has a policy of genocide toward followers of other religions, non-Jews and which violently discriminates against and persecutes non-Jews is a travesty of civilization and democracy.
Israel is and always has been an evil taint upon the world and on Judaism. The depths of depravity to which Israelis, Zionists and Jews sink, and have done since 1947, rank as the worst in human history. They make the Nazis look civilized and enlightened. Even the Nazis did not intentionally mass murder and maim children and then laugh, boast, gloat and cheer about it as Israelis do.
Even the Nazis did not invent a game where one day they shoot starving children, trying to reach food, including toddlers in the head, the next day the heart and the third day, the genitals and then on Day Four repeat, as documented by horrified international doctors.
The level of evil that is Israel and the debased depravity and sadistic cruelty of Israelis is a curse which must be totally eradicated.
When I read a guy who praises Bachir Al-Assad and grieves over his removal, my first response is: “hello Moscow interlocutors. Now do what the Chernobyl safety officers did on that fateful day in 1986. ‘Igor, quick! More vodka’.” If I’m wrong, “give my best to the guys at the “Bat and Doggie Cafe” in Yuhan. It’s better than the uranium mines.”
I guess that makes Nasrallah “Brendan Filone.” The drug dealer in S1/E2.
Your boss Putin is a smart guy. Said his troops would be welcomed in Kyiv with flowers and would have the place controlled in 2 days. And Zelinsky in Lubyanka in 2 weeks! Well here we are, with Russian oil refineries blowing up. You’re likelier to be in Lubyanka than Zelinsky.
The mullah’s? Used to read the commentaries from academics and Europeans describing them as “chess players.” They had a brilliant idea, get the Arabs to fight & die for them so they wouldn’t need any air defense. Gotta admire Israel. They got the top 45+ military people and nuke scientists in one room and converted them into fish food😂
All oligarchs can fuck off, including Vlad the Chabad. Nobody funds or owns me, Billy Boy. A gen-u-wine ‘Merican dad with years of a library for you to listen to that would prove it, but you’re gonna believe whatever dumbass liberal Democratic party Russiagate nonsense anyway. The only reason you even commented is that you have no actual fact to counter anything published above, you’re mad because people hate Israel for their extermination of Palestinians, while they deny doing it every day.
Well dad, you sound like a bright guy. So I’m sure you know that your hospital, school, mosque, whatever loses its protection under international law when it functions as a military operations platform, weapons depot, or torture chamber? Just as combatants are obliged from civilians (uniforms)? The shelters are supposed to be for “civilians,” not mouseholes for terrorists.
Except the terrorists are the hunters, not the huntED at this point. All the modern weaponry and bombs and still they can’t seem to eliminate Hamas, man they must really suck - or it was never really about “Hamas” - it was about stealing the land & murdering the inhabitants. Just like we did to the Native Americans. Like they taught us in school. Custer. Manifest destiny. Or were you not paying attention then too?
I think it would result in excessive civilian casualties if they did as we did to Germany & Japan in WW2, or as Russia did in Grozny. Remind me how much food and fuel we sent to the Third Reich?
When I read a comment like this I think: duopoly brainwashed clown who doesn’t realize that America is the bad guy - the mob boss bully Tony Soprano. Take off your star spangled Underoos and wake the fuck up. This is not Candyland. This is the real world where adults play for keeps. You aren't even smart enough to spell Assad's first name correctly yet you KNOW what I'm all about? LOL
In terms of crimes "Israel", and before that, the Zionists committed in order to achieve their objective, this book, 'Against Our Better Judgment', by Alison Weir, https://archive.org/details/weir-alison-against-our-better-judgment-the-hidden-history-of-how-the-u.-s.-was-_202404/mode/2up very readably discusses an enormous and relentless list of deceptions, and treasons they induced individuals in our US government (and other governments) to commit, without which "Israel" would never have happened.
A "country" founded on nothing but lies cannot stand.
The Zionists even beat and abused the Jewish survivors living in post-war European refugee camps until they would agree to go to Palestine, which these victims of the Zionists did not want to do.
Truman, who disregarded the advice of his entire state department to recognize "Israel", was led to it by a Zionist mole who threatened Truman with losing the vote of Jewish Americans if Truman did not do the bidding of a collection of foreign terrorists; Haganah, Irgun, and Stern Gang/Lehi were vicious terrorists, not "defenders" (an excellent book that exposes their nature is also in archive.org's library: 'Remembering Deir Yassin').
A group of Palestinians has just filed for reparations in Britain, stating that Britain broke her own laws in the handling of the "Balfour Agreement". From what I've read in the USA's state dept archives, tying memos and letters to events, not only did Britain's envoy deceive the USA and his own Parliament to work for the Zionists' benefit, the Zionists deceived Britain and the USA, as well as the UN, while attempting to set things up to make the US look responsible. Their deception of the UN was fundamental to the UN's coerced agreement to advisorily support their cause.
Time to retract acknowledgement of their criminal enterprise, and pursue them and those who give it material aid or comfort.
I am descended from some of the worst enemies of peoples with names like Shawnee, Cherokee, and Comanche. It is sobering to look squarely at what my ancestors did, and why, which is that the capitalism of the time was just as inexorably cruel to them as it was to those whose lands they seized and settled.
The time for that kind of exploitative economics is passing. Humanity MUST find something better in order to survive.
Great piece, Indie. Maybe your best yet, which is a good thing.
Really in depth piece - I learned even more today - especially seeing that article from the NYT. As a “Jew adjacent” (what I’m called by Zios amongst all the other things) I didn’t know anything about Palestine until 2 years ago and just assumed Israel was a “real” place because it’s on a map. Big awakening.
Is it not obvious even to the most rabid Zionist that you cannot murder and steal your way to a happy place? That’s insanity and in the case of Israel it’s seems to be on a societal scale.
Thanks for commenting and I understand that it's hard to see, especially in 2025.
I grew up in the 70s and 80s. They weren't actively murdering 100 people per day on social media. We never even really heard much about it compared to now.
The story of how Israel came to be was never presented to us, as kids, that the land was obtained by murder and theft, obviously - that's not what the Zionists tell their kids. They twist it to say that the land was "gifted" to the Jews by the international community as a reparation for the Holocaust and certified at the UN. The Zionists never talk about the Nakba or about who was living there at the time. They talk about how they've been constantly under attack since the community of nations agreed that there should be "a homeland for the Jews" - but it's as much a Christian project as anything, and conflated Judaism with Zionism and the project of "reclaiming" Israel. That's the lie I was sold.
Again, I know it seems crazy but remember that most people on earth believe there's an invisible deity in the sky watching over everything they do. So...
Between all the propaganda, the media reinforcing the narrative and working hard to keep kids in a bubble about it, shielded from even hearing the accusations so they never really question.
It's presented as an open-and-shut case that turns out the way "we" wanted it - so why look too closely into the how? That's the mindset. Willful ignorance by some, never even realizing there was another side to it for others. Seth Rogen, the actor, talks about a similar experience.
Hope this helped clear it up. I'm sure it doesn't sound any better than before but I was never told that Israelis were bloodthirsty baby murderers by anyone in the Jewish community - I had to see it for myself. Not all of them, but too many are directly guilty of it. or ok with it happening.
"as much a Christian project as anything, and conflated Judaism with Zionism and the project of "reclaiming" Israel"
is another crazy piece of the puzzle. Although the Zionist quiver of arguments contains multiple justifications for the reclaiming -- (false for the Ashkenazi) claims to ethnicity, supposed history, religion -- I don't see any of these claims having any ultimate genealogy that traces back to anything but religion. And for the Christian Zionists, of course it is religious on its face and throughout.
All of this violates the 1st Amendment. Our Constitution doesn't say that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion domestically, it says establishment of religion, finis, stop, no modifiers.
"Establishment" is a noun as well as a verb, and again the destination of said religion vector (which would be the establishment) isn't specified as having to be domestic. We cannot promote a state's religious nature as being something we get behind, in America. We just can't do it. That doesn't mean we have to actively tear down states that have a state religion, but we cannot put our weight behind the state religion, or religious claims or justifications, or any of that.
When is the American populace going to shake the sleep paralysis demons and put their feet down on this?
Yes it never would have been available to use as an excuse or claim, there would be no excitable Christian patsies, and I think there would be other benefits more generally, too.
Thanks for that Indie, it was a rhetorical question really - highlighting I suppose the cognitive dissonance Israelis would suffer by looking properly and with an open heart at the whole issue. In a way, ignoring the elephant in the room is a form of collective insanity.
As an Israeli born person, now for 30 years an expat, all this information certainly helps, but even without it, for me, this was the feeling even from young age. The idea that the experiment called "Israel" was a home, or a normal place, never made any sense to me.
The realization that Israel must be a total scam and a fraud - is therefore a natural feeling I carry with me for many, many, years. This information (some of it I have seen before, especially the involvement of imperial powers) leaves no room for doubt. But maybe this is what is necessary to let people know what is happening(?)
Worst of all this fraud was not actioned for any decent “bigger” purpose but exactly for the opposite. The whole thing is just 100% pure criminal. Sadly, it remains so till this very day.
I do not know that there is a "goal" but it is sufficient to know that we are looking at an ongoing crime with unbelievable magnitude - my suspicion is that it is directed from outside Israel. Criminals just enjoy their crimes – not sure that looking for a goal is that necessary. It is a monstrosity with or without a goal. Greed and lust for power - totally out of control.
An older version of this included Cyprus, which makes me think that Greece and Turkey must have promised to bomb the fuck out of Israel if it wasn't removed. It has since been removed. This is how you deal with expansionist, settler colonial mindsets.
Yes, but I had a bit of an eye-opener about Cyprus at work. I had two students in from different courses at the same time so I introduced them, one from the Turkish north whose relative had died in the 74 war, and the other from the Greek south. They not only got on really well but had mutual friends. They explained that young people constantly flit across the border, attend each others colleges and drink in each other’s pubs. A lot of the animosity seems to be performative, for the generation who experienced the war, and the British, who pay through the nose to maintain the peace.
Harbor no illusions - the only reason Israel decided to move now is because they know full well that, because they have bought or threatened sufficient numbers of high-ranking officials in those governments that matter, and could make this plan possible, they are completely safe from harm. Sure, they may suffer some PR setbacks in the short run, but they are confident, and should be, that no one or no entity will stop them from completing their mission to establish Greater Israel. I wish it were not so.
This. 1000 times over.
The concept of a State for Jews was always ridiculous, dangerous, illegal,undemocratic and primitive. No religion has a right to self determination, a State or homeland and that includes Jews.
If Jews had such a right then all religions would have the same right and none do. And the homeland would be where the religion was invented. For Jews that would be what is now Iraq and for Christians it would be Palestine. But no such right exists.
The idea that European Jews could invade, occupy and colonise someone else's country and decree in the name of their religion that the native people had to be exterminated, as Zionists and then Israelis have always stated as policy, was not only insane it was and is criminal.
Palestine is the homeland of the Palestinian people and belongs to no-one else and to no religion. Palestine has existed for more than 5000 years and was ancient when Judaism was invented and a primitive tribe called Judah wandered into Palestine and set up camp alongside dozens of other tribal groups.
In the modern age, to have a State which laughingly claims to be a Western democracy and yet which has a policy of genocide toward followers of other religions, non-Jews and which violently discriminates against and persecutes non-Jews is a travesty of civilization and democracy.
Israel is and always has been an evil taint upon the world and on Judaism. The depths of depravity to which Israelis, Zionists and Jews sink, and have done since 1947, rank as the worst in human history. They make the Nazis look civilized and enlightened. Even the Nazis did not intentionally mass murder and maim children and then laugh, boast, gloat and cheer about it as Israelis do.
Even the Nazis did not invent a game where one day they shoot starving children, trying to reach food, including toddlers in the head, the next day the heart and the third day, the genitals and then on Day Four repeat, as documented by horrified international doctors.
The level of evil that is Israel and the debased depravity and sadistic cruelty of Israelis is a curse which must be totally eradicated.
I CHOOSE PALESTINE.
The biggest illusion buster is BRICS for not doing anything tangible. A court case doesn't stop people dying, economics and bravery does.
Napalm them into the dust
When I read a guy who praises Bachir Al-Assad and grieves over his removal, my first response is: “hello Moscow interlocutors. Now do what the Chernobyl safety officers did on that fateful day in 1986. ‘Igor, quick! More vodka’.” If I’m wrong, “give my best to the guys at the “Bat and Doggie Cafe” in Yuhan. It’s better than the uranium mines.”
I guess that makes Nasrallah “Brendan Filone.” The drug dealer in S1/E2.
Your boss Putin is a smart guy. Said his troops would be welcomed in Kyiv with flowers and would have the place controlled in 2 days. And Zelinsky in Lubyanka in 2 weeks! Well here we are, with Russian oil refineries blowing up. You’re likelier to be in Lubyanka than Zelinsky.
The mullah’s? Used to read the commentaries from academics and Europeans describing them as “chess players.” They had a brilliant idea, get the Arabs to fight & die for them so they wouldn’t need any air defense. Gotta admire Israel. They got the top 45+ military people and nuke scientists in one room and converted them into fish food😂
All oligarchs can fuck off, including Vlad the Chabad. Nobody funds or owns me, Billy Boy. A gen-u-wine ‘Merican dad with years of a library for you to listen to that would prove it, but you’re gonna believe whatever dumbass liberal Democratic party Russiagate nonsense anyway. The only reason you even commented is that you have no actual fact to counter anything published above, you’re mad because people hate Israel for their extermination of Palestinians, while they deny doing it every day.
Well dad, you sound like a bright guy. So I’m sure you know that your hospital, school, mosque, whatever loses its protection under international law when it functions as a military operations platform, weapons depot, or torture chamber? Just as combatants are obliged from civilians (uniforms)? The shelters are supposed to be for “civilians,” not mouseholes for terrorists.
Except the terrorists are the hunters, not the huntED at this point. All the modern weaponry and bombs and still they can’t seem to eliminate Hamas, man they must really suck - or it was never really about “Hamas” - it was about stealing the land & murdering the inhabitants. Just like we did to the Native Americans. Like they taught us in school. Custer. Manifest destiny. Or were you not paying attention then too?
I think it would result in excessive civilian casualties if they did as we did to Germany & Japan in WW2, or as Russia did in Grozny. Remind me how much food and fuel we sent to the Third Reich?
When I read a comment like this I think: duopoly brainwashed clown who doesn’t realize that America is the bad guy - the mob boss bully Tony Soprano. Take off your star spangled Underoos and wake the fuck up. This is not Candyland. This is the real world where adults play for keeps. You aren't even smart enough to spell Assad's first name correctly yet you KNOW what I'm all about? LOL
In terms of crimes "Israel", and before that, the Zionists committed in order to achieve their objective, this book, 'Against Our Better Judgment', by Alison Weir, https://archive.org/details/weir-alison-against-our-better-judgment-the-hidden-history-of-how-the-u.-s.-was-_202404/mode/2up very readably discusses an enormous and relentless list of deceptions, and treasons they induced individuals in our US government (and other governments) to commit, without which "Israel" would never have happened.
A "country" founded on nothing but lies cannot stand.
The Zionists even beat and abused the Jewish survivors living in post-war European refugee camps until they would agree to go to Palestine, which these victims of the Zionists did not want to do.
Truman, who disregarded the advice of his entire state department to recognize "Israel", was led to it by a Zionist mole who threatened Truman with losing the vote of Jewish Americans if Truman did not do the bidding of a collection of foreign terrorists; Haganah, Irgun, and Stern Gang/Lehi were vicious terrorists, not "defenders" (an excellent book that exposes their nature is also in archive.org's library: 'Remembering Deir Yassin').
A group of Palestinians has just filed for reparations in Britain, stating that Britain broke her own laws in the handling of the "Balfour Agreement". From what I've read in the USA's state dept archives, tying memos and letters to events, not only did Britain's envoy deceive the USA and his own Parliament to work for the Zionists' benefit, the Zionists deceived Britain and the USA, as well as the UN, while attempting to set things up to make the US look responsible. Their deception of the UN was fundamental to the UN's coerced agreement to advisorily support their cause.
Time to retract acknowledgement of their criminal enterprise, and pursue them and those who give it material aid or comfort.
I am descended from some of the worst enemies of peoples with names like Shawnee, Cherokee, and Comanche. It is sobering to look squarely at what my ancestors did, and why, which is that the capitalism of the time was just as inexorably cruel to them as it was to those whose lands they seized and settled.
The time for that kind of exploitative economics is passing. Humanity MUST find something better in order to survive.
Great piece, Indie. Maybe your best yet, which is a good thing.
You should be proud of this one. You knocked it out of the park here Indie. Keep up the great work ✌️
thanks, brother - there will be more coming, appreciate the support and the shares.
Really in depth piece - I learned even more today - especially seeing that article from the NYT. As a “Jew adjacent” (what I’m called by Zios amongst all the other things) I didn’t know anything about Palestine until 2 years ago and just assumed Israel was a “real” place because it’s on a map. Big awakening.
Thank you for reading and sharing. 🙏
Is it not obvious even to the most rabid Zionist that you cannot murder and steal your way to a happy place? That’s insanity and in the case of Israel it’s seems to be on a societal scale.
Thanks for commenting and I understand that it's hard to see, especially in 2025.
I grew up in the 70s and 80s. They weren't actively murdering 100 people per day on social media. We never even really heard much about it compared to now.
The story of how Israel came to be was never presented to us, as kids, that the land was obtained by murder and theft, obviously - that's not what the Zionists tell their kids. They twist it to say that the land was "gifted" to the Jews by the international community as a reparation for the Holocaust and certified at the UN. The Zionists never talk about the Nakba or about who was living there at the time. They talk about how they've been constantly under attack since the community of nations agreed that there should be "a homeland for the Jews" - but it's as much a Christian project as anything, and conflated Judaism with Zionism and the project of "reclaiming" Israel. That's the lie I was sold.
Again, I know it seems crazy but remember that most people on earth believe there's an invisible deity in the sky watching over everything they do. So...
Between all the propaganda, the media reinforcing the narrative and working hard to keep kids in a bubble about it, shielded from even hearing the accusations so they never really question.
It's presented as an open-and-shut case that turns out the way "we" wanted it - so why look too closely into the how? That's the mindset. Willful ignorance by some, never even realizing there was another side to it for others. Seth Rogen, the actor, talks about a similar experience.
Hope this helped clear it up. I'm sure it doesn't sound any better than before but I was never told that Israelis were bloodthirsty baby murderers by anyone in the Jewish community - I had to see it for myself. Not all of them, but too many are directly guilty of it. or ok with it happening.
This
"as much a Christian project as anything, and conflated Judaism with Zionism and the project of "reclaiming" Israel"
is another crazy piece of the puzzle. Although the Zionist quiver of arguments contains multiple justifications for the reclaiming -- (false for the Ashkenazi) claims to ethnicity, supposed history, religion -- I don't see any of these claims having any ultimate genealogy that traces back to anything but religion. And for the Christian Zionists, of course it is religious on its face and throughout.
All of this violates the 1st Amendment. Our Constitution doesn't say that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion domestically, it says establishment of religion, finis, stop, no modifiers.
"Establishment" is a noun as well as a verb, and again the destination of said religion vector (which would be the establishment) isn't specified as having to be domestic. We cannot promote a state's religious nature as being something we get behind, in America. We just can't do it. That doesn't mean we have to actively tear down states that have a state religion, but we cannot put our weight behind the state religion, or religious claims or justifications, or any of that.
When is the American populace going to shake the sleep paralysis demons and put their feet down on this?
No religious texts (both flavours) no genocide in Gaza/West Bank. Other genocides available.
Yes it never would have been available to use as an excuse or claim, there would be no excitable Christian patsies, and I think there would be other benefits more generally, too.
Benefits include non reliance on improbable myths and delusional doctrines.
Eloquent, accurate and much appreciated.
Your post and your replies throughout are so powerful. I greatly appreciate all of it.
Thanks for that Indie, it was a rhetorical question really - highlighting I suppose the cognitive dissonance Israelis would suffer by looking properly and with an open heart at the whole issue. In a way, ignoring the elephant in the room is a form of collective insanity.
You may appreciate this podcast about Israel's targeting of journalists, and the woke hypocrisy:
https://open.substack.com/pub/soberchristiangentlemanpodcast/p/s2-ep-81-israel-genocide-in-palestine?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=31s3eo
As an Israeli born person, now for 30 years an expat, all this information certainly helps, but even without it, for me, this was the feeling even from young age. The idea that the experiment called "Israel" was a home, or a normal place, never made any sense to me.
The realization that Israel must be a total scam and a fraud - is therefore a natural feeling I carry with me for many, many, years. This information (some of it I have seen before, especially the involvement of imperial powers) leaves no room for doubt. But maybe this is what is necessary to let people know what is happening(?)
Worst of all this fraud was not actioned for any decent “bigger” purpose but exactly for the opposite. The whole thing is just 100% pure criminal. Sadly, it remains so till this very day.
I do not know that there is a "goal" but it is sufficient to know that we are looking at an ongoing crime with unbelievable magnitude - my suspicion is that it is directed from outside Israel. Criminals just enjoy their crimes – not sure that looking for a goal is that necessary. It is a monstrosity with or without a goal. Greed and lust for power - totally out of control.
An older version of this included Cyprus, which makes me think that Greece and Turkey must have promised to bomb the fuck out of Israel if it wasn't removed. It has since been removed. This is how you deal with expansionist, settler colonial mindsets.
Don't forget the war b/w two NATO countries - Turkey and Greece over Cyprus in 1974
Yes, but I had a bit of an eye-opener about Cyprus at work. I had two students in from different courses at the same time so I introduced them, one from the Turkish north whose relative had died in the 74 war, and the other from the Greek south. They not only got on really well but had mutual friends. They explained that young people constantly flit across the border, attend each others colleges and drink in each other’s pubs. A lot of the animosity seems to be performative, for the generation who experienced the war, and the British, who pay through the nose to maintain the peace.
Excellent piece my friend. Of course crossposted to Twi-X/FB/Minds/MeWe.