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Graham R. Knotsea's avatar

Kamala and Joe should prove to everyone that the POTUS is a puppet postion.

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Nicholas Johnson's avatar

4 more years of word salad guaranteed

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Carlos Zevallos's avatar

If you sounded less deranged, I might listen to your argument. In fact I wish that were the case because I really enjoy well thought, well articulated contrarian takes. Too bad you fail on the first two.

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Indie's avatar

Thanks for reading lol

Sorry it hurt your fee fees

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Carlos Zevallos's avatar

No hurt fee fees here. More like friendly advice that if you truly hate the corporate media, you might want to avoid ther outrage machine tactics, unless.... You like the attention (subscribers/sales) it brings you?

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Indie's avatar

Well, in spite of being against the duopoly, pointing out corruption and anointing does seem to bring in interest, and it's what I've been dedicated to exposing and destroying. The corruption at the top of some of our labor unions too. Subscribe. You'll definitely hear things the DNC doesn't want you to know. Or don't. all good, but not many people seem to think what I wrote is deranged. What IS deranged is vote shaming people into accepting and supporting an anointed candidate who won as many primary states as I did.

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Carlos Zevallos's avatar

Ok, let me restate the deranged label (which insn't helpful, so apologies on that), and say perhaps hyperbolic or inflammatory. I commend you for exposing corruption and wrong doing at any level, god knows the DNC , unions, bascially any place of power has it... its human nature unfortunately. But regarding the Harris choice, 1) it was the most democratic choice seeing as she was already on the ticket. Most people accept that they are voting for president and potential president in a ticket... In fact a mere formality such as Biden resigning would have given us the EXACT same outcome with the understanding that the new incumbent president Harris had a virtual lock on the nomination. 2) It was clearly within party nominating rules, since rules obviously allow delegates to change nominee if the pledged nominee drops out. If you think an open/brokered convention was the answer, then you basically wanted Trump to win, as Harris would have still won, just with Trump much stronger by then... and most importantly, 3) 90% percent of Dems agreed with Kamala as the nominee, which again, is pretty damn strong proof that democracy won out, as she would have received enough votes even if a new utterly useless primary was carried out.

So, if you're gripe is that an actual nominating election wasn't carried out, you don't understand that in the U.S., as in other democracies (e.g. UK), the party is the one that decides how and when to nominate a candidate. It just so happens we go the extra mile and have primaries to ensure people are heard (which I'm really glad we do). Either way, and like it or not, Harris was in every sense, the choice of a vast majority of Democrats, and therefore deserved the nomination. As for vote shaming? Do whatever you want, it's your future.

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rc4797's avatar

Right wing turfing.

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Indie's avatar

that's what they just did. A corporate takeover of the party, anointing an unelected clown who they knew would never survive a primary. Thanks for reading and agreeing!

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Shaggy Snodgrass's avatar

So are we ready for a new left party, right after this bilge-wash of an election, to contest midterms in 2026?

Because as heavy as that lift seems, it's lighter than during a POTUS year; and Duopoly coffers to oppose it will be much emptier.

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Indie's avatar

You aren’t voting your way out of this.

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Shaggy Snodgrass's avatar

No, we ain't. But in any case at all, we as a left need to gather up in some level of large group, to defend ourselves from either of these parties after November.

If their attacks are electoral, we respond electorally; if they wanna do worse, we can fight them on that level too.

But only if we have a structure, and a political party is a structure.

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James Harn's avatar

No

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Connie Nash's avatar

These are the questions!

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Silvia's avatar

Nope! I’m not voting for her or the other. Maybe I will not voting at all.

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Indie's avatar

None of the Above!! Welcome to the team.

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S Lowrey's avatar

Please identify who you are, the people or persons behind Indie, before asking one to subscribe.

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Indie's avatar

I am anonymous to protect my family from crazy stalkers, no thanks

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S Lowrey's avatar

Concerned that replying to substack writers who are bravely using their names may be compromising our safety.

So it has come to this! This is how easily we can be intimidated. Being courageous for oneself is one thing, but

considering harm to family adds such a moral dimension. This is how the German Nazis stifled dissent, of course,

so easy. I lived in Germany for some time 20 years after the war and although careful not to ask the kind people who welcomed me to their country what they did during the war was treated never-the-less to defensive and interesting

accounts of how they coped and justified their coping.

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S Lowrey's avatar

Understand…makes sense.

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John Omaha's avatar

Actually I am very happy that Kamala Harris will be the Democratic candidate for President. Very happy. My consent is NOT manufactured.

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Indie's avatar

Then you are just a simp who DGAF about “Democracy” as long as you approve, I guess the hell with the constitution, precedent & laws! Thanks for showing you got brainwashed.

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Hilton's avatar

Your opinion has gotten tedious.

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John Omaha's avatar

I do not tolerate insults, which are so on-brand for "conservatives", Republicans, and Trumpists. I will now block you.

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Indie's avatar

Haaaa ok then

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

People who think they will get a bottom-up, middle-out economy from a top-down political party that excludes their votes. #Election2024 #economy

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Indie's avatar

None of the Above!

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VULT CULT's avatar

Interesting article and enjoyed reading it - thank you.

Honestly I don't think the US Crapitalist ruling class gives a shit who runs in the duopoly brands - because they're both conveniently controlled by them. Either way, their chosen middle management (aka US politicians) remains employed in government to do their bidding. In a true sense, said ruling class is just like any other employer in this system - every employee is replaceable and disposable to them.

Nothing will ever change for the better for the majority as long as systems like crapitalism (and its successor system fascism) are in place for the rich and powerful to use to exploit. And certainly no elections within crapitalism will change that..

The only thing I can see that remotely has a chance of changing things for the better for all, is a broad social/political movement that aligns people in a way that the ruling class can't undermine.

And, with the ongoing accelerated pace of climate change, time is running out.

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Indie's avatar

Thanks for the comment! Glad this resonated. Totally agree.

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Jeanne Elbe's avatar

Arrogance . You are right and everyone else is wrong. Bless your little hardened heart..

and go away with your “I am not gonna Democrat or republican .”

No one cares about your one vote.

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Margaret Franken's avatar

Actually people should care. And if everyone seriously considered what that blue or red tick endorsed, we might make numbers that count for a change.

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Indie's avatar

do you care about 100 MILLION Votes? Because that's how many eligible American's choose NOT TO VOTE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. Cry more.

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Indie's avatar

you did. Thanks that was kinda my point. Just as no one cares about your one vote for an anointed candidate nobody voted for, can't help if people don't want to wake up and stop playing duopoly. Until we do, nothing will fundamentally change and it will continue to devolve. Well done, you!

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Jeanne Elbe's avatar

What do you do to advance your so called answer to all that is awful in the USA besides put forward your take on all that is awful in the USA?

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Indie's avatar

I didn’t claim to have the answers, but it sure as shit doesn’t include supporting anointed, unelected uniparty stooges.

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the long warred's avatar

Relax. Your ballots are being filled out again as Harris, not Biden. This will boost seasonal employment.

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Indie's avatar

Dumb

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the long warred's avatar

Dumber

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