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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

Their punishment is a hell on earth and a nightmare,

but how to restore peace

in this war of good vs evil?

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Indie's avatar

no you are being propagandized. The only EVIL are the billionaire class exploiting the poor for profit, destabilizing governments and manipulating people with the media they control, focusing on stories that emotionally charge and get people angry at the wrong groups. WHY ARE THE MIGRANTS COMING HERE?

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

them=these murderers

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Indie's avatar

WHICH murderers? Everyone coming here is a murderer?

This is hysterical Karening to the max

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

If your daughter, wife, son or husband was only one of thousands murdered would

you want them on the streets free to terrorize and murder innocents? So law and order must prevail to protect innocents among us.

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

I am exhausted and worried about my 13 grandchildren and 9 great grandchildren’s future. 🙏😵‍💫

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

How do any of us really know the truth of the matter?

Israel is a whole different problem: too hot to handle or understand. We will never get to vote on THIS.

Why can’t protests be allowed as long as they are

not violent, killing people or

destroying property???

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Indie's avatar

Great question, but the protests the other day were basically liberals having a parade and it accomplished nothing.

We know the truth of the matter because the COPS and ICE Agents have every incentive to lie about mistreating prisoners, the prisoners have every reason to expose the people mistreating them, cops have been proven to lie almost every time. They refuse to wear body cameras, when there are hidden cameras - it almost ALWAYS reveals them pulling some junk to frame innocent people, to avoid paperwork or being implicated in their own guilt.

Some of it is also rooted in racism, which you may reject but the numbers are undeniable.

https://prisonjournalismproject.org/2024/01/30/corrections-officers-abuse-inmates-common/

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

I was referring to the gang members, of course. This is what the others who came here , to escape, right? The vicious gangs!

I am not supporting sending those folk back who want a better life and who are hard workers in my community, already owning businesses

and homes of their own🙏💞

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Indie's avatar

the Trump admin is not making a distinction. They are sending young men without trial to SUPERMAX prisons. Again. WITHOUT. TRIAL. Without due process.

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Indie's avatar

They are deporting people for protesting Israel murdering babies with US bombs. It is not "supporting terrorism."

It's demanding that the US and Israel stop supporting the murder of thousands of Palestinian babies, children and displaced people who were already running for their lives from our bombs as "collective punishment" because "they support Hamas" - which they may, but wouldn't you support the people fighting the country bombing you - over the country that's literally actively bombing you?

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Indie's avatar

who are you talking about?

You are talking about persecuting thousands and treating asylum seekers as criminals. People who gave up everything and risked everything to come here because it was so bad where they were, they saw no future there

(because the US destabilized their government in an attempt to install a puppet that would do what we wanted)

The poverty and crime in those areas are due to US policy - you need to look a layer deeper. Stop getting emotionally charged by anecdotal stories on OANN and FOX News that they use to get your permission & wild approval to persecute brown people by the thousands. The ICE agents can now decide that a tattoo is a gang sign with zero due process. You sound authoritarian. We have processes to deal with that. Don't like it? Fix the PROCESS. Don't persecute people.

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Michael Golden's avatar

Simply put, you can’t be arrested and enslaved without being able to present your side of the story and then seeing what a judge or jury decides. It is wholly un-American. Fifth Amendment. And no Trump supporter would ever agree to risking one of their loved ones being grabbed and deported to a mega prison without due process. TGM: https://shorturl.at/QXJF0

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Dean Smith's avatar

One things for sure many of these prisoners will go in to jain with no police record but they'll have the knowledge to start a life of crime

And the resentment to not give a shit

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Indie's avatar

also part of Trump's plan. Create a self-fulfilling prophecy to make the people who weren't going to be violent, seem like they COULD be violent

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